05 September 2013

Contest ALL fines

My name is Stan. I am a retired Sergeant of Police in Victoria for 14 years. I was also a police prosecutor at times, so I know what I am talking about. I spent half my life in Magistrates Court during my time in the Force. I was only ever a very fair copper, and I am proud of my time in the job, looking after the interests of Victorians, often to the detriment of my family and my health.

I never booked any driver for a trifling offence “ever”. People committing trifling offences commonly used to get a warning and a licence / vehicle check. It had to be serious before I booked anyone.

I am so annoyed at what is happening these days, in what I call “Indiscriminate revenue gathering” It is absolutely disgusting. The government and the Police Force need to hang their heads in shame. If you did a survey of current serving members of the police forces in this country, you would be hard pushed to find many who disagree with me.

I know how the legal system works, and I know how to beat the system. This is how to do it, and if about 10% of all drivers booked follow my specific instructions, then the entire system will crash and become unworkable to the extent, that the government will have no choice but to stop issuing fines for every type of traffic offence. The whole lot of them. Seriously.

I do not feel guilty about coming out with this information, as I think it’s about time someone stood up for hard working, civil minded, law abiding taxpayers in this country, who are being screwed.
This is very simple and very basic. The idea is to clog up the system in the traffic camera office and the courts by drivers exercising their rights to remain innocent until proven guilty.

SIMPLE BASIC LEGAL STEPS TO FOLLOW…………….

1. Do not accept the alleged offence. There are numerous valid reasons to dispute every single alleged offence. Often the charges are incorrect or the evidence is illegally or incorrectly gathered.

2. Challenge it, tell them that you are going to defend the matter. Make them earn their miserable $150 or $200 or whatever. They have to prepare evidence and witnesses. Just the wages for the camera operator or the Policeman on the day of the court, will be more than the actual fine. You are also taking a camera operator or a member of the Police Force off the street for the day. But it won’t get to that point…..read on….

3. If a court date is ever set, and it does not suit you, do not accept it, ask for a delay to a time and place that suits you.

4. When they re set the date, delay it as often as possible. keep pleading not guilty all through the process. You have every right to be sick, or go for an adjournment if the day does not suit for any legitimate reason. For example you may have pressing family or work commitments which prevent you from attending a particular court on a particular day.

5. If it ever actually gets to court, (which is unlikely if everyone does this) and if you are unwell that day, ring the court in the morning and tell them that you cannot make it as you are sick. The camera operator, and a police prosecutor will already be at court, and will be greatly inconvenienced, by having to come back another day. The whole time this is going on, the amount of paperwork involved at the traffic camera office is huge. Several staff are involved, and it rapidly becomes very costly, probably running into thousands.

…..with me so far…..keep reading…….

6. The court system is then placed under such a massive load by people who wanted “their day in court” that it simply will not be able to cope unless they open up about another 50 magistrates courts, and this is obviously going to cost the government a lot more than any revenue raised. If all the above fails, which is highly unlikely….and you actually go to court and get convicted……you have a right of appeal. Make sure you appeal the conviction. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see what happens. They are not going to spend millions chasing hundreds.

7. Tell everyone you know to challenge their alleged offences, and the entire system will crash within a few weeks.

8. Please pass this on. AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY AND THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THE EVIDENCE USED AGAINST YOU IS WRONG. YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CHALLENGE ANY ALLEGED OFFENCE. THIS IS WHY COURTS EXIST….SO USE THEM……A LOT.

Regards,
Stan

7 comments:

  1. unfortunately it didn't work for me, the corrupt judge just found me guilty on two dodgy tickets, one issued at midnight...it was the third postponed date set for trial but i sent a notice stating that i was overseas on family matters, didnt matter, 3000 bucks later....no justice whatsoever

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  2. Did you appeal? there was a bloke in South Australia who was railroaded by a local court and he took it further and WON his case.

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  3. Unfortunately there is NO silver bullet. As the common advertising disclaimer goes "Individual results may vary'.

    Sometimes they let it go at the Magistrates' level and sometimes not.

    Even if or when you take it further, you could win, provided you have the 'correct' evidence against them, and they do not want to make you matter public, then you 'win'.

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  4. I am involved in a court case over a P.I.N. (they love acronyms). I have been told by the magistrate that common law no longer exists and that the NEW "law" of the N.S.W. gov over rides it.
    I have to wait again until the 16th of June for the furthering of the case. The other side is a council and they are working VERY hard to win the case. I was NOT in control of My Vehicle on that day but the prosecutor says that anyone could say that???
    I am truly at a loss now as I thought being honest was enough, it isn't.
    Common law is not used in this court and I am guessing that I will have to appeal as I am assured I will lose. :(

    I would like to find out how I will go about appealing to a higher court, please.

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  5. Hi George,

    Thanks for your comment.

    This is where the so called 'magistrate' is wrong, and therefore 'erred' in law. What would a good recourse in action is to obtain his/her details and lodge an application for a judicial review.

    If enough people do this to the corrupt magistrates that sit in office, then maybe they (the maggots) 'rule' correctly. 'Common Law' DOES exist, and in the 'Supreme Court' there is a 'Common Law' division.

    To take it to the 'next' level lodge an appeal, which you can pick up the paperwork from your local court, or tell the prosecutor that you want the matter heard in a court of competent jurisdiction.

    Some people may even offer you the advice of NOT owning up to the name, or even stating a 'I do not consent' on paperwork or letters or what have you.

    Should you take this avenue, something called due process STILL occurs and will escalate to higher penalties.

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    1. Registered operator. One name, drivers license different.. fine is a third/ different name..
      Fraud.? Agent and principal. Ask prosecutor if he's an agent of the crown. Won't be an honest answer.
      You are the principal.

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  6. Justice in this country with absolutely no corruption (that only happens in other places! HA HA) is what you get....when your money runs out!!!!

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